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[Emperor ServingSpoon]

I enjoyed the first two, but they're touch screen destroyers. I never ended up picking up the third. It's not a spinoff series that I have ever missed.

The TCG video game and Pokemon Pinball series, however, are LONG overdue for a new installment!

 

[Memento]

If Gamefreak comes out with another spinoff, it shouldn't be Ranger: it should be a sequel to the Orre games. There was even a hint that Cipher was being rebuilt in the shadows by someone in the second game, but they only ever used GameCube for both Colosseum and XD: Gale of Darkness. Imagine what they could do with an XD sequel on the Switch - or, hell, even a remake. I have no idea why they haven't done it, but they really should.

 

[Skarmizard]

I’d give anything for a third Shadow Pokémon game, or even a remake with newer ‘mons. I really thought we’d get one on the Wii after Gen 4 dropped...but putting one on the Switch would be amazing.

 

[Trollkitten]

I mean, we've had shadow Pokemon in Pokken, we've had shadow Pokemon in Pokemon GO; there's really no reason not to put shadow Pokemon in the mainline games, or even a new spinoff set in Orre or a neighboring region to Orre.

 

[Emperor ServingSpoon]

I would've loved a third Orre game, since they actually had something good going with XD... But I think the time where it actually might have happened has long passed by this point, sadly. The mainline games are all in 3D now, and the most recent two generations are on a home console, so all the biggest reasons to justify their creation in the first place no longer apply... I'd still very gladly take it over another BDSP style "remake," but I'd take another Legends game over whatever another Orre game would end up being nowadays.

 

[RevenantArcan]

I've been away for a while, I have new bad takes to share!

1) I genuinely dislike a lot of earlygame content.

From my perspective, earlygame is characterised by Sand-Attack, having low enough stats that Growl and Harden spam is actually annoying, Sand-Attack, minimal access to status-healing items (either because the shops aren't selling them yet or because I don't have enough money to stock up on them), forcing multiple runs to the Pokemon Centre every time a 10% burn or paralysis happens, Pokemon with really bad early learnsets, Sand-Attack, Abras before Great Ball access, Bide turning every Pokemon you can't two-shot into a time-bomb, Sand-Attack, crits being uniformly deadly, Supersonic hitting 90% of the time for the AI and 20% of the time for the player, and Sand-Attack.

Getting past Gym 2 normally has a sort of "Oh thank god, now I can enjoy the rest of the game" moment. Though this is less annoying in Gen VI-VII thanks to the EXP Share, and barely an inconvenience in Gen VIII-IX thanks to perma-EXP Share.

2) Gen VIII-IX EXP Share is fine, y'all are just mean.

I solved the problem of "You level up too fast" in these games by just... using more Pokemon. You can access the PC box from anywhere, so I just added more guys until I was comfortably staying on the level curve. And then I barely had to grind at all, making Shining Pearl one of the smoothest and most enjoyable runs ever. As a bonus, it meant that when Cynthia promptly bent me over a table, I had a second team of guys that were already in the late 50s, and the grind for the revenge run didn't take a whole day.

This is generally how I've approached both Nuzlocke and casual playthroughs since the release of BDSP. I just have a team of 12. If I see something new that I want to use, I don't face the awkward decision of who to box, I just add them to the list. Like, in my runthrough of Violet, I was using a Gardevoir, and then I learned that Sharpness now exists, so I just went and added a male Kirlia to the party and I used both.

3) I actually really like BDSP.

Now, would I have preferred a Gen IV remake on the level of ORAS? Yeah. Do I think Platinum should've been either the primary basis or at least heavily factored in, like HGSS? Definitely.

But if I'm quite honest, "DP but the trainer AI isn't literally random, it runs smoothly, it's faster, you grind less, there's better Pokemon access, and Fairies now exist" isn't an awful game to play. I don't hate playing BDSP, and I quite like the curveballs it throws. I've never been more scared of earlygame Abras, and I love it.

And I will say that I don't think Pokemon remakes have ever done an amazing job of solving the problems of their original counterparts. RGBY's non-glitch issues are still present in FRLG, and they added some new ones too. Same for GSC and HGSS. ORAS comes out looking better IMO, but that has much more to do with RSE being, in my opinion, a superior foundation.

I've now run BDSP twice (or was it three times?) and I had a pretty good time with all of the runs I did. I'll probably do another at some point.

 

[Skarmizard]

The Violet Paradox Pokémon are overall just as solid as the Scarlet ones, and might actually be better. Honestly, I'm not a big fan of the Scarlet ones (except Roaring Moon-easily the coolest of the set).
That said, the Scarlet 'mons definitely have better names-why did the Violet ones all have to be named "Iron _______"?

 

[RevenantArcan]

Yeah, I overall prefer the Violet ones, though I'm still partial to Great Tusk, Slither Wing, and Roaring Moon.

 

[Champ Siggi]

The Violet ones are 10x better that's why I played through Violet first.

 

[RevenantArcan]

I don't really see the point in removing the chip damage from Hail/Snow in Gen IX. Yeah, I like that it gives a defensive buff now, but... Sandstorm does both chip damage and defensive buffs. Why does Hail need to keep being "Worse Sandstorm?"

Hell, Ice is so bad as a type that I almost want to say Hail should do chip damage, defensive buffs, and boost the power of Ice moves, and it still wouldn't actually be broken.


EDIT: More ice-related opinions.

Ice shouldn't be weak against Steel. While humans have made specific metal objects that can do serious damage to ice, they have to be specially designed to do so, and their efficacy is heavily dependent on the amount of ice involved. But most Steel-type Pokemon aren't man-made or specially designed for that purpose, they're just metal animals. Metal is a great conductor for temperature, and while that's displayed in the type's weakness to Fire, it's also true in the opposite direction. A steel shell would offer little protection from the cold, and extreme cold can weaken metal and cause it to become brittle.

Also, metal objects that weren't specially designed for anti-ice features often have a bad track record against ice. Like, someone want to go ask the Titanic how "Large metal object" vs. "Large icy object" goes, because the iceberg won that encounter.

 

[Rubombee]

they did what now...... i havent been to the snowy parts of paldea yet help

 

[Trollkitten]

Hail has been replaced by Snow, which functions as Hail for the purpose of abilities but deals no chip damage and boosts the physical defense of Ice types. I'm not entirely sure why they made this change but didn't include the Frostbite status condition, other than the possibility that the Frostbite status condition was specifically tailored for Legends' new battle system and thus was never considered for the main series games, or perhaps it's just that the two games were made by different groups within Game Freak and they didn't really network their new changes between each other.

Possibly both.

 

[Champ Siggi]

I don't really see the point in removing the chip damage from Hail/Snow in Gen IX. Yeah, I like that it gives a defensive buff now, but... Sandstorm does both chip damage and defensive buffs. Why does Hail need to keep being "Worse Sandstorm?"

Hell, Ice is so bad as a type that I almost want to say Hail should do chip damage, defensive buffs, and boost the power of Ice moves, and it still wouldn't actually be broken.


EDIT: More ice-related opinions.

Ice shouldn't be weak against Steel. While humans have made specific metal objects that can do serious damage to ice, they have to be specially designed to do so, and their efficacy is heavily dependent on the amount of ice involved. But most Steel-type Pokemon aren't man-made or specially designed for that purpose, they're just metal animals. Metal is a great conductor for temperature, and while that's displayed in the type's weakness to Fire, it's also true in the opposite direction. A steel shell would offer little protection from the cold, and extreme cold can weaken metal and cause it to become brittle.

Also, metal objects that weren't specially designed for anti-ice features often have a bad track record against ice. Like, someone want to go ask the Titanic how "Large metal object" vs. "Large icy object" goes, because the iceberg won that encounter.

I completely agree with everything you just said, I used a Cetitan in my first playthrough of the game because I loved it the moment I saw it in a trailer, and found that it's snowstorm move was pretty weak. That didn't stop me from using it though, pokemon games are too easy for that if you aren't using any added rules, I just like to enjoy the plot/get a feel of the game before actually doing a locke of it.

 

[Emperor ServingSpoon]

I don't really see the point in removing the chip damage from Hail/Snow in Gen IX. Yeah, I like that it gives a defensive buff now, but... Sandstorm does both chip damage and defensive buffs. Why does Hail need to keep being "Worse Sandstorm?"

Hell, Ice is so bad as a type that I almost want to say Hail should do chip damage, defensive buffs, and boost the power of Ice moves, and it still wouldn't actually be broken.

I find the removal of the chip damage from Hail odd, but I'm not sure I'd say it's a bad thing. Ice is kinda a bad type defensively, so unlike Sandstorm, which can be taken advantage of by Rock, Ground AND Steel mons (in addition to several mons that don't have those types), with Hail, you were just stuck with Ice types, and it would actively disadvantage every other mon on your team (aside from mons with Overcoat/Magic Guard or Safety Goggles), so you're almost forced to run a mono Ice team to actually get much use out of Hail (which is quite atrocious defensively). I think Snowstorm lost the damaging effect so that it could *much* more easily be incorporated into any given team without actively harming the rest of your own team.

But I think boosting the power of Ice moves along with 100% accurate Blizzard would kinda be broken... Ice is perfectly fine offensively, and any offensive buffs the type gets just help the numerous mons who use it for coverage (which is to say, that would also be a Water buff).

 

[Neotornado]

But I think boosting the power of Ice moves along with 100% accurate Blizzard would kinda be broken... Ice is perfectly fine offensively, and any offensive buffs the type gets just help the numerous mons who use it for coverage (which is to say, that would also be a Water buff).

I feel like that's a very similar relationship to psychic and ghost have whenever dark gets nerfed (most notably with pursuit being gone), since as much of an upgrade as it is for psychic, it's an even bigger one for ghost.

As for ice as a whole, it just needs more resistances than anything. Water, Ground, Flying, and Dragon would all be pretty great resistances that'd make some sense, could just pick like 2 or 3 of those.

 

[MixnMatch]

I feel like what GF is trying to do with Ice defensively is kinda different but also I'm not sure if it will work and how to balance it.
Ice is bad type from defensive point of view but got plenty of tools to patch up their defenses (from Ice Body and Ice Cloak to Aurora Veil and now Snow weather) or just focus purely on offensive side (Slush Rush, Blizzard, things like Galarian Darmamitan) because fainted enemy Pokemon is the best defense in Pokemon you can get.
Honestly I'm curious how much GF will push this way of working with Ice-types and when it will be enough to make them valid defensively.

 

[Arawanhe]

Unpopular Opinion: I don't think Legends was bad, but overall I didn't care for it. While there were lots of interesting ideas, the main reason I disliked it was the combat system, specifically changing from a turn based system to a Pseudo ARPG style that is ruled by Speed and Agile styles

 

[Trollkitten]

What I disliked about Legends was my inability to handle the real-time Noble Pokemon combat sequences without freaking out. To be fair, I didn't know at the time that the dodge rolls negate damage but just plain running doesn't, so theoretically I should be able to complete at least the first Noble boss now... but the stress levels I had while trying the first time aren't exactly encouraging me to pick the game back up again. It's more a me thing because I have poor reflexes and anxiety issues, but it was still a major turnoff.

Also I think that interspacing real-time action with the turn-based combat in the Noble battles didn't really mesh well together, but once again, I am horrible at handling real-time action to begin with, so I am heavily biased.

 

[Arawanhe]

True, there was that entire style switch as well. "Random" (have any battles been "random" since SWSH?) encounters have some turn based elements along with ARPG elements, but the Noble battles were just "remember all the training you had fighting randoms? Yeah, we're not doing that now"

 

[Champ Siggi]

I hated the noble battles because they 1. Weren't pokemon battle styled enough 2. They were too hard due to you being like unable to do anything to them until they used their once every 15 minutes super attack and then you had to beat them in a battle and get 5 seconds of them being stunned so you can throw the balms which isn't enough time and also your pokemon don't get healed so you have to fight it (and it's really high leveled and they are pretty strong pokemon too) like 6 times which is so hard and tiring and also they are ridiculously op out of battle so that if you got hit by one attack then you get stunned and immediately get hit by like another attack because you can't move and another and finally 3. If I wanted to do some fight style rpg game like that I would just play something like BotW or TotK!!!!!!?