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Thread Description
A Paper Mario themed Pokemon SoulSilver lorelocke by a decidedly 3D Bowser. Last update: Chapter 8 (11/14).

Bowser's Family Vacation

Johto League Champion
Writer
Team Delta
Pokédex No.
301
Caught
Jul 1, 2019
Messages
2,308
Nature
Rash
Pronouns
She/her
Pokémon Type
  1. Dragon
  2. Cool
Pokédex Entry
"Am I Mario's babysitter? Are you going to call me every time that guy blows his nose, or what?"
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Updates between training sessions.​
I'm not committing to a set-in-stone update schedule for this project—in part because, by the nature of this ruleset, there will be a lot of grinding, and that, as you can (maybe) see, I am committing to a Photoshop element to this project, and, thus, updates will take a while to make.

That being said, I will post on my profile at least 48 hours in advance that an update is coming and will ping those who comment in the post to help readers find their way back. Thank you for understanding!


You see, it all started when Bowser got interested in the lorelocke ruleset and thought Johto, the region in Pokemon that seems to be the most “old-fashioned” or in-tune with its legends, would be an appropriate setting…

1) If it faints, it is dead.
1a. I do not count deaths that occur before you obtain Pokeballs.
2) You can only catch the first encounter of every route.
2a. Gift Pokemon (i.e: Pokemon/Eggs that are given to you without any money/coins in exchange) count as free encounters for that area—but only one gift Pokemon per area.
2b. You can use an in-game trade Pokemon regardless of if you caught the Pokemon the NPC is asking for, but the trade Pokemon counts as your encounter for the area that the trade occurs. (i.e: If you get Rocky in Violet City, you cannot get a Pokemon in Violet City via Headbutt or water.)
2c. You can only buy one Pokemon in the Game Corner, so choose wisely!
3) The Lorelocke Rules (TLDR: Game mode on Set, individualized rules for each Pokemon.) by @RubyClaw !
3a. For lore rules that are based on time of day, I will be using the variant for games that do not have time of day. I don’t like limiting what time I can play my video game. :x For lore rules that do not explicitly give a “clock-free” version of the rules, I will say that they can only stay in battle for 3 consecutive turns before needing to be switched out.
3b. I will allow HM buddies (Pokemon who are only in the party to use HMs) regardless of whether the HM is “essential” (i.e: Fly, Flash) or not and regardless of if I am normally not allowed to switch my team around.
3c. I am beginning the run on Version 1.23 of the rules, and I will be using this same version for the whole run in order to avoid confusion.
4) Dupes Clause.
4a. My Dupes Clause is this: I can try to catch a Pokemon from an evolution line I haven’t caught yet three times before the next encounter “counts.”
5) No restrictions on item usage, leveling up, research, or Pokemon Center usage.
6) Each floor of an area counts as a different area to get an encounter.
7) Safari Clause: I get 1 attempt for a capture in every one of the 4 different catching areas.
8) If I wipe, I do not consider the run over. Train up a new team from the PC and try again. If you run out of Pokemon in the PC, randomize 6 Pokemon to be brought back so you can keep playing. (Note: If this happens, I will change the tags to call this an “Other Adventure.”)
9) The run ends after defeating Lance. (ew hgss post-game)
10) Naming theme is characters from the Paper Mario series.

Pokemon Sprite
Name (Location)
Name in italics if required to stay in the party by a lore rule.
Level
  • Move 1
  • Move 2
  • Move 3
  • Move 4
Move in italics if required by a lore rule.
Example.
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Goombario
(Starter)​
Level 19
  • Tackle
  • Razor Leaf
  • Reflect
  • Light Screen
This proud Pokemon demands to be the figurehead of your party. It must be the first on your team whenever you battle Gym Leaders, the Champion, or your Rival. Can’t
have two pokemon with this rule in your party. It is considered Royal.
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Cragley
(Route 46)​
Level 19
  • Tackle
  • Defense Curl
  • Rock Polish
  • Rock Throw
This pokemon falls off the nearest wall/mountain as you attempt to catch it. There is a 35% chance for every non-Steel/Rock/Ground/Flying/Pokemon with levitate that was used against Geodude/Graveler/Golem (or for the pokemon who leads the party in Let’s Go) to die (after the battle). Must know at least one move with the word “Rock” in it if possible.
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Mini-Yoshi
(Route 32)​
Level 19
  • Water Gun
  • Tail Whip
  • Mud Shot
  • Headbutt
Whenever this pokemon learns a new move, 50% that it becomes permanent and can’t be unlearned.
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Ms. Mowz
(Sprout Tower 3F)
Level 17
  • Tail Whip
  • Quick Attack
  • Bite
  • Headbutt
You must add Rattata/Raticate to your party right after you catch it. Then choose another higher levelled pokemon in your party. As long as Rattata/Raticate is in your party and is lower levelled than that pokemon, you may cancel that pokemon's lore rule. If Rattata/Raticate ever leaves your party, release Rattata/Raticate.
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Bobby
(Violet City: Trade)​
Level 20
  • Extrasensory
  • Flash
  • Yawn
  • Flamethrower
This pokemon can’t have more than 2 damage dealing
moves. You are not allowed to open a trainer battle using this pokemon.
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Muscle "The Master" (Goldenrod City: Trade)
Level 20
  • Low Kick
  • Leer
  • Focus Energy
  • Karate Chop
This courageous Pokemon must be placed first in your party while you are walking in a forest, cave, dungeon or evil-team building, in which you never travelled in before.

Pokemon Sprite
Name (Location)
Example.
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Timpani
(Route 30)
Only comes in effect when it is a Beedrill. This pokemon travels between our world and the afterlife, shares both the sorrows and wisdom of the dead, and demands taking part in mourning them. When another pokemon in your party dies (not by being sacrificed) while Beedrill is in your party, you may reroll once the lore rule of another pokemon in your party. If the new lore rule is activated upon catching, it is activated now instead. If you choose not to reroll, you must release Beedrill.
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Bow
(Sprout Tower 2F)
This pokemon was a monk that stole from the charity of its temple and was therefore cursed to stay at this ghastly form. It can’t evolve into Haunter unless it repays its debt to society by donating items worth 20,000 pokeyen to the city where its temple resides (randomize among all cities that are pre-E4 in your region where this temple is. You must go there to make the donation).
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Deep Cuts (Azalea Town)​
Must know a Dark type move if possible. Must know a Fighting type move if possible. Must use at least one damaging move before it can be switched out of battle. If it is hit by a Fairy type move it must switch out as soon as possible.
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Merlee
(Route 34)
While Drowzee/Hypno is in your party you may ignore the effect of lore rules of Psychic type pokemon as you catch them and may cancel the lore rules of every other Psychic pokemon in your party . Drowze/Hypno can’t have two moves of the same type. You can use HM guides (slaves) instead of teaching your pokemon HMs.
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Tubba Blub
(Dark Cave)​
If this pokemon kills a pokemon in battle, it must stay in and kill a second pokemon (if that trainer has any). If it is switched out before that it is considered fatigued and can't be used in battle until you sacrifice either a non-bought revive or items worth 2000 pokeyen.

Pokemon Sprite
Name (Location)
Example.
Cause of Death (lore death VS regular death)
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Gloomtail (Route 29)
Can’t switch out of battle against Dragon and Poison pokemon. Can’t use Dragon or Poison type moves. Can’t be in the same party with a pokemon whose main typing is Dragon or Poison. Must know a Ground type move if possible.
Route 46 Geodude encounter's Rockslide lorerule.

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Hm? Oh, hello there! Let me just pause the game I was playing, you know, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door for the Nintendo Gamecube.

...Yes, I know that’s not the pause screen.

But did you know that I’ve never actually played Thousand-Year Door?



Have we gotten the angry vibes out yet? Yes, I have a confession to make: The only Paper Mario games I, Bowser’s Family Vacation, have played are Sticker Star (never finished it because it sucks) and Origami King (which I’m working on and am really enjoying)! I’ve watched my twin brother play (and complete) the original Paper Mario, Thousand-Year Door, and Super Paper Mario.

Yeah, so the only Paper Mario game I have zero exposure to is Color Splash. Sorry, Color Splash.

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another game i haven’t played but shh i am a baby who is only good at turn-based rpgs

And you know what is a turn-based RPG I have played?
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If you are bothered by the scratch on my bottom screen (or the general well-loved quality of my 3DS), this is not the run for you.

So welcome to my playthrough of a game I have played honoring a series of games that I have never actually completed in any iteration! Roll the title screen!
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I’m an experienced nuzlocker, and this isn’t my firstlorelocke rodeo either, so I’m hoping to help provide some laughs and strategy alike! subscribe to my channel for photoshop cs6 tips

Speaking of strategy, for those of you who are unfamiliar with the lorelocke need to know that, in a lorelocke, each species of Pokemon has several individualized rules available. Some of these rules come into effect during the attempt to capture a Pokemon, so it is very important that you roll to see which rule your Pokemon has before capturing it, so you can make an informed decision about whether to engage.

...Let’s try to keep track of how many times I forget to do that! :D

But there isn’t a question whether you can “catch” your starter, so I want to dedicate most of this time to analyzing the starter choices in the context of a HeartGold/SoulSilver lorelocke. Keep in mind that, while I will reference some Facts ™, my conclusions are based off of my playstyle (and, therefore, are, in fact, Opinions ™ ). I won’t be doing this type of analysis for every species we encounter (in fact, I might not even go in-depth talking about the lore rules I get on my team, depending on what they are), but I think it’s valuable to do Big Brain Time 🧠 for the Pokemon that will start it all.


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Uh, no.

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Try again.

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You know what? We’re moving on!

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It’s true: Johto hates grass types. The first gym and Champion are both flying type specialists, and the evil team uses poison types most commonly, never mind the myriad of other weaknesses grass types have.

But I’ve never used Chikorita as a grass type. For me, the appeal of Chikorita is dual screens. It learns both via level-up a generation before TMs become reusable. Chikorita was my starter in my SoulSilver rainbow wedlocke, and dual screens made Barclay a king. 👑

Now let’s look at Chikorita’s lore rules.
(Relevant only in games with HMs, if not reroll). This monster has the magical abilities of the Chicory to open all doors and pathways. Must know at least 2 HM moves at all times and open every indoors battles using one of them. Can’t use Light Screen or Reflect. When it dies you can save the essence of this pokemon, and use it once to save a pokemon from dying from a lore rule.
OK, I recognize that, technically, this is a good lore rule. Being able to save a Pokemon from dying from a lore rule is amazing (and I used such a life-saving lore rule to great effect in my Omega Ruby lorelocke, which I used to test out this ruleset).

But. I use Chikorita primarily for Reflect and Light Screen. And this lore rule forbides those moves.

Would I Use This Pokemon?
No.
Whenever it is supposed to evolve, 80% that it fails. Decrease these chances by 10% next time for every time it has failed to evolve into this current form (to a minimum of
50%), and reset this when it evolves (e.g.Chikorita level 16 wants to evolve, rolls 80% and fails. Level 17 wants to evolve, rolls 70% fails. Level 18 wants to evolve rolls 60% and makes it. Get to be a level 32 and wants to evolve, again 80% to fail and so on).
Depending on your luck, you might be stuck with a Pokemon with lackluster stats for a long time. Even so, pre-evolved Pokemon learn moves quicker than evolved Pokemon. 🤔

I usually hold off my Chikorita’s evolution by one level to get Reflect anyway, and I think I delayed Barclay’s evolution into Meganium to get Light Screen in my SoulSilver wedlocke. Still, the lowest it gets is 50%....

Would I Use This Pokemon?
Yes.
When this pokemon is used in battle on man-made floor it can only stay in battle for 3 consecutive turns before it must be switched out. If it is not (even if it can't), it dies in
the end of battle.
You know what battles take place on man-made floor? All the Gym Battles. And all the Rocket encounters (minus Slowpoke Well). What are you even using Chikorita for, then? Battles that shouldn’t be scary enough to require dual screens. Although setting up dual screens should only take two turns….

Would I Use This Pokemon?
Yes.
This pokemon doesn’t eat or drink and only survives by smelling certain foods. Must always hold a berry, Apricorn, Big Root, or Incense. If it ever consumes a berry switch it out and it dies in the end of battle. If it is ever hit by one of the following moves switch it out immediately and it dies in the end of battle: Smelling Salts, Smokescreen, Clear Smog, Smog and Poison Gas.
That sounds like a lot of item grinding. And avoiding Team Rocket at all costs. No thanks.

Would I Use This Pokemon?
No.
This proud Pokemon demands to be the figurehead of your party. It must be the first on your team whenever you battle Gym Leaders, the Champion, or your Rival. Can’t have two pokemon with this rule in your party. It is considered Royal.
I mean, it’s good to lead with dual screens anyway, so… >_>

Would I Use This Pokemon?
Yes. (Preferred lorerule.)
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Yes, I know the Cyndaquil line is just a copy + paste job of the Charmander line, but I like the Cyndaquil line better. Particularly before gen 6. In 2D, they made Typholsion so expressive! There aren’t many fire types in Johto (off the top of my head, there’s Magmar and that Slugma egg—I know Houndour only appears in Kanto for some stupid reason), and this line has blistering special attack!

Now let’s look at Cyndaquil’s lore rules.
This pokemon is part of a great family of monsters, and is very defensive of its kin. As long as it is in your party, whenever you catch a new pokemon 25% that it is related to Cyndaquil/Quilava/Typhlosion. If a pokemon related to it is wounded into red HP or dies in battle, you must immediately switch to Cyndaquil/Quilava/Typhlosion if possible. Then you must either avenge it by killing the pokemon who wounded/killed it (if relevant and that pokemon is still out and alive), or use your first turn to heal the wounded relative back to full health (if possible and your kin pokemon is wounded and not dead).
Considering that the Cyndaquil line is strong, this doesn’t seem too bad, especially since you have the option to heal the kin Pokemon instead of avenging at least some of the time. If I get this lore rule, maybe I can keep track by using the marks on the summary screen and/or using Seals.

Would I Use This Pokemon?
Yes. (Preferred lorerule.)
This pokemon is a destructive force of chaos. Must stay in battle for at least two consecutive turns before it can be switched out. Must know one move of every type if possible. If it is hit by an Electric type move, you must switch it out as soon as possible and you can’t switch it in, and it dies in the end of battle.
...I don’t know what “must know one move of every type if possible” means. ._. Additionally, the “death by one type of move” makes me leery. I know that coverage isn’t too common in HGSS, but, right off the top of my head, Lance is three Dragonite that look identical, except one of them has Blizzard, one of them has Fire Blast, and one of them has Thunder.

Would I Use This Pokemon?
No.
While it is in your party, whenever you add a new non-Steel non-Poison pokemon to your party that is lower leveled than Cyndaquil/Quilava/Tyhplosion, 10% that it eats that pokemon (and if you add Cyndaquil/Quilava/Typhlosion to the party after removing it from the party at least once, randomize for each pokemon in the party 10% if it eats it). When Cyndaquil/Quilava/Tyhplosion kills its first pokemon in battle it must stay for at least 2 more turns in battle.
Considering the fact that your starter is almost always one of your higher-level party members? Yikes! 😱 Even disregarding that fact, I don’t like using Pokemon with lore rules like this (chance to kill team members beyond the initial moment of capture, when you can plan your team composition accordingly).

Would I Use This Pokemon?
No.
This pokemon has no regard for the needs of others and can often physically push them away and harm them. Whenever you add a pokemon to your party 20% that it can’t stand the presence of Cyndaquil/Quilava/Tyhplosion and can’t be in the same party with it for the rest of the game. When you add Cyndaquil/Quilava/Tyhplosion to a party roll the same for each member of your party.
In a similar vein to Gluttonous Surplus Killer but much more palatable to me. To be honest, though, I think this will just send my starter to the bench. XD Violet City Slugma, here I come!

Would I Use This Pokemon?
Yes.
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Ice Fang via level-up. If you can use Feraligatr against Lance, you have a real chance of clearing that battle deathless, which is a real feat! There are a lot of water type options, but most of them require you to dip into your precious TM cache to get ice type coverage….

Now let’s look at Totodile’s lore rules.
In open areas – in a game with day/night cycles can only be used in the night. In a game without – can be used for 3 consecutive turns, then must be returned as soon as possible. Must know at least two moves from these types if possible: Ground, Rock, Fighting and/or Steel. Can’t know more than 1 Special move.
Keeping in mind my rule about time-sensitive lore rules, I could work with this. Admittedly, Totodile would be dipping into your TM supply, but these are good coverage types (which the exception of steel in this generation) anyway. Plus, Totodile is a physical attacker anyway, so what is it missing out on? Other than Surf, which it can use anyway?

Would I Use This Pokemon?
Yes.
This pokemon is an ever hungry crocodilian sea and earth monster. Must know a Ground type move if possible. Must know a Water type move if possible. Every time it reaches a level that is completely divisible by 10 (10,20,30... and so on) it gets struck by a terrible hunger. You must then either sacrifice a non-Steel pokemon for it to eat, or throw away items worth 15,000 to buy it enough food.
I like my money, thank you. >_> Especially in HGSS, since your mom can buy some really good items.

Would I Use This Pokemon?
No.
Must know a Steel type move if possible. Must know one of these moves if possible: Screech, Roar, Round, Snore or Uproar. Can’t know Dark type moves or be in the same party as a Dark type pokemon.
Actually, this brings up a really good question: What steel type moves can the Totodile line learn in HGSS? ...It looks like it’s just Iron Tail or a lucky Hidden Power steel. There is Metal Claw as an egg move, but that’s, well, an egg move.

Would I Use This Pokemon?
Yes. (Preferred lorerule.)
While this pokemon is in your party you may cancel the lore rule of every other Water pokemon in your party and the effect of lore rules of Water type pokemon as you catch them. Must know a Poison or Dragon type move if possible. Its main type is considered Dragon, and secondary types are Poison and Water for the purpose of lore rules. When Totodile/Croconaw/Feraliagtor dies, choose a Water type pokemon and a Flying type pokemon you have, or had and died due to a lore rule. You may revive each of these pokemon and reroll its lore rule, or just reroll its lore rule if it is alive. If the new lore rule is activated upon catching, it is then activated again.
The Chosen lorerules are really good, and this one is no exception! The only reason I don’t mark it as my preferred lorerule for this line is because it has a lot of components that can be difficult to remember (i.e: lorerule typings).

Would I Use This Pokemon?
Yes.

We can’t pick, though, until we roll to see what set of lore rules we are picking from!
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...Only Chikorita has 5 potential lore rules. I guess we’re picking Chikorita, then!

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Welcome to the party, Goombario!

With that, I welcome you to the world of PokemonTTYG!

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Chapter 1: First Tears
Chapter 2: Live, Laugh, Li(e)
Chapter 3: Ties That Bind, Ties That Fly
Chapter 4: Chaos! At The Cave
Chapter 5: U-Turn To The Right
Chapter 6: Butting Heads
Chapter 7: The Encounter Master
Chapter 8: Gamboling Problem
 
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PsyduckEnthusiast

Conqueror of the Celadon Gym
Pokédex No.
4668
Caught
Jun 21, 2021
Messages
36
Location
United Kingdom (UK)
Nature
Bashful
Pronouns
he/him
Pokémon Type
  1. Water
  2. Fighting
Pokédex Entry
a person who is very enthusiastic about the pokemon Psyduck, primarily because their first ever shiny was a psyduck, which they caught in their past.
This looks like it’ll be a really interesting Nuzlocke! I’m looking forward to see more, good luck :)
 

Spectacles

Rule Maker
Team Alpha
Pokédex No.
139
Caught
Jun 24, 2019
Messages
690
Location
Pennsylvania
Nature
Jolly
Pronouns
she/her
Pokémon Type
  1. Fairy
Pokédex Entry
It hides deep inside caves where no light ever reaches it and remains virtually motionless there. ~Pokemon Crystal, entry #52
Yesssss I am so excited to see this!!! Also I am shocked that you've never played the original Paper Marios!! You must have absorbed a lot by watching your brother play because you have a lot of knowledge/references on those games! Absolutely amazing starter name; I hope Goombario gets to go all the way!
 

Empty Sun

that's right, buttholes
Artist
Pokédex No.
566
Caught
Jul 22, 2019
Messages
572
Location
The Moon
Nature
Impish
Pokémon Type
  1. Normal
  2. ???
Pokédex Entry
It might eat you. It might your relatives.
damn you really doing a nuzlocke with all these rules what a chad
good luck!
 

Trollkitten

Kitten of Lore
Artist
Writer
Team Delta
Pokédex No.
208
Caught
Jun 30, 2019
Messages
2,085
Location
Gatto Region
Nature
Quirky
Pronouns
She/her, Aetherai Lorekeeper
Pokémon Type
  1. Fairy
  2. Clever
Pokédex Entry
Autistic writer who starts more things than she finishes. Hyper asexual lorewriter and worldbuilder. Rather be a happy shill than an angry critic.
I'll admit it, you had me at "A Paper Mario themed Pokemon SoulSilver lorelocke." This has gotta be good. (Darn it, if they won't give us the Paper Mario we've all been waiting for since Thousand Year Door, we'll do it ourselves, if we have to nuzlocke HGSS to do it!)
another game i haven’t played but shh i am a baby who is only good at turn-based rpgs
Same. I just do NOT have the reflexes for bullet hell.
We can’t pick, though, until we roll to see what set of lore rules we are picking from!
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...Only Chikorita has 5 potential lore rules. I guess we’re picking Chikorita, then!
My mode of operations is usually to make a separate roll for each starter, then choose which starter I like the lorerule of most. Goombario is a good name for a Grass-type starter, and yours is the freaking KING. Long live Goombario!
 

CasualGameFreak

Discord Resident Extraordinaire
Writer
Team Alpha
Pokédex No.
130
Caught
Jun 23, 2019
Messages
446
Location
Flower Paradise
Nature
Quirky
Pronouns
they/she
Pokémon Type
  1. Grass
Pokédex Entry
Despite being a Grass-type, Casual is a flaming lesbian. Fire and Grass don't usually mix, but somehow it works out here.
I'm excited to see where this goes and happy that you picked my favorite Johto starter! I find it's all too common that people nitpick its weaknesses and conveniently gloss over its strengths (dual screens as mentioned, fantastic bulk in a region that rewards that, and great matchups against some of the hardest fights in the game in Whitney, Chuck, and that Kingdra). I used one in my first ever completed Nuzlocke in Crystal and he was my MVP, beating out the likes of Suicune and Graveler-if-you-only-count-the-first-two-thirds-of-the-game.

Ah, someone who's enjoying Origami King as well! I ended up buying it on a whim because I'd heard good things about it and I must say, this is probably a flaming hot take but I'd put it on par with 64 in terms of quality.

In other news, Goombario with that lorerule? Sounds like a good time. Interested in seeing how this goes!
 

Lumaeus

The Hero of Vine
Screenshotter
Team Alpha
Pokédex No.
239
Caught
Jul 1, 2019
Messages
466
Location
Kokiri Forest
Nature
Brave
Pronouns
he/him
Pokémon Type
  1. Grass
  2. Cute
Pokédex Entry
This Pokémon is trying its best to fight the good fight.
A lorelocke with references to a franchise I adore but have also underplayed (in almost reverse to the way you have)? I can't wait to see how this goes. 'grats on the preferred lorerule! (Also grats on the cute starter, but that was inevitable in this gen)
 

RubyClaw

Challenge Seeker, Completionist and Rule Designer
🌱Featurer
Writer
Screenshotter
Team Omega
Pokédex No.
22
Caught
Jun 9, 2019
Messages
2,211
Location
Kanto Route 1, 1% encounter rate (Israel)
Nature
Calm
Pronouns
He/Him
Pokémon Type
  1. Fire
  2. Psychic
Sadly never played Paper Mario myself (though heard good things about it), but a lorelocke, and by @Bowser's Family Vacation ? count me in! (I really enjoyed your comments about your last lorelocke!).

Great explanations and well written opinions about the different starters and their lorerules, and it just shows me how certain people find certain lorerules easier or harder and less or more fun to use. These things are really useful to me when I make new rules and balance old ones. Oh about Cyndaquil's Descendant of Typhon what it was supposed to say was "Can’t know two moves of the same type.", I'll fix it for version 1.24, thanks for catching that one!

Well, Symbol of Imperial Authority is surely an interesting one for a Chikorita (actually had a Chikorita with it myself on one my test runs). Makes some battles a bit harder as you have to switch it out pretty fast, but if wisely used it can actually give you a great opportunity for a set-up as you mentioned yourself, and an opportunity to show this little dino-pear is better in Johto than some people think.
 

ACottontail

Johto League Champion
Pokédex No.
2364
Caught
Aug 20, 2020
Messages
579
Nature
Timid
Thousand year grind is a pretty accurate name for a Johto run. The strongest wilds in the region are level 40 when the champion's ace is level 50, then there's the grind to get to Red... Still yay Chikorita is getting some love! Chikorita can be pretty useful with it's dual screens, and it's self healing moves in battle. Good thing it's lore rule pretty much states that you should set up screens at the start of major battles. While it'll be forced to switch out immediately sometimes due to weaknesses, the screens should really help out.
 

Moon

Johto League Champion
Writer
Team Alpha
Pokédex No.
3995
Caught
Mar 9, 2021
Messages
618
Nature
Sassy
Pronouns
They, Them
Pokémon Type
  1. Ghost
  2. Ice
Pokédex Entry
Because they're the two rarest types, they're the rarest pokemon. Yes, that's logical. No, there aren't other Ghost/Ice types. Froslass doesn't exist.
oooooooooo
lorelocke?
paper mario? even though i've only played color splash and origami king
count me in!
 

RisingMew

Currently yelling about Sw/Sh
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Writer
Team Alpha
Pokédex No.
348
Caught
Jul 2, 2019
Messages
116
Nature
Relaxed
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She/Her
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  1. Fire
  2. Dragon
Pokédex Entry
A calm and nocturnal creature with a fondness for reading.
I've always wound up on the Super Mario RPG side of things since I had more access to handhelds than consoles as a young'un, but I'm eager to get a bit of second-hand exposure to the Paper Mario franchise alongside a Johto run with some crazy lorelocke rules! As often as I've played HGSS, I've never used a Chikorita because the Cyndaquil line encompasses my favorite Pokèmon of all time and I can't bring myself to play without it, but I do love the grass dino's design and I've heard great things about its use of screens and bulk. Being able to start out with your favorite lorerule is also a boon, and I'm eager to see how this regal lad leads the team through these grind-heavy games. Can't wait for more!
 

redninjapuffle

Probably playing DragonBall FighterZ
Screenshotter
Team Delta
Pokédex No.
841
Caught
Sep 24, 2019
Messages
838
Location
Peaceful Plains
Nature
Calm
Pronouns
He
Pokémon Type
  1. Electric
  2. Dark
Pokédex Entry
Redninjapuffles are known to want to create their own nuzlocke stories or comics, however, many have yet to start one.
Lorelocke with paper mario inspiration? COUNT ME IN
 

Bowser's Family Vacation

Johto League Champion
Writer
Team Delta
Pokédex No.
301
Caught
Jul 1, 2019
Messages
2,308
Nature
Rash
Pronouns
She/her
Pokémon Type
  1. Dragon
  2. Cool
Pokédex Entry
"Am I Mario's babysitter? Are you going to call me every time that guy blows his nose, or what?"
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #13
@PsyduckEnthusiast : Welcome to the Nuzlocke Forums, and welcome to this run! I’ve done several SoulSilver runs before but never with this complex a ruleset. Hopefully, that will keep things interesting!

@Spectacles : Hey, I’m glad to have you on board for another SSWL! :) Yeah, I am an imposter. :c sus I think I absorbed a lot because, at least for my brother’s most recent playthrough of Thousand-Year Door (where I think he got up to the beginning of Chapter 6), we voice-acted all of the lines!

@Empty Sun : when the chad is sus

@Trollkitten : I’m glad the “elevator pitch,” so to say, hooked you! I know you’ve accumulated a lot of lorelocke experience. To explain my randomization: I’ve used all of the Johto starters, so I was fine with using any of them. I was more interested in choosing between lore rules, so I decided to randomize a number, and my choice would be between Chikorita, Cyndaquil, and Totodile with that number lore rule. I think I’ll be doing the same thing if I choose to hatch Primo’s egg in Violet City, since I’ve now used all three of those Pokemon too.

@CasualGameFreak : Ooh, a Chikorita fan! A rare sort. And an Origami King fan. Even rarer. If you mind going on a rant, would you be willing to explain that opinion (in a spoiler tag) because I think that is a hot take, and I am intrigued. 🔥

@Lumaeus : Reverse way? How so? 👀 Ah, another reason why I was fine with any of the starters here, they’re all beans! 🥺

@RubyClaw : Ah, the loremaster himself! :starry eyes: I was so confused and was hoping I’d summon you to my thread. I’m sure there will be more questions to come. I apologize in advance! ^^’

@ACottontail : I’m on a mission… to prove that the Chikorita line is good in games that aren’t. (Hot take, I know, but games can’t be judged on aesthetics alone.)

@Moon : Glad to have you on board! As I said before, I actually have zero experience with Color Splash. How is it?

@RisingMew : My brother started playing Super Mario RPG on the Wii Virtual Console. I don’t have any memory of him completing it, though. 🤔 I consider it more of a spiritual predecessor to the Mario and Luigi series, however (of which I have played Superstar Saga and Dream Team—but never completed either).

@redninjapuffle : Another successful elevator pitch! :D

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I've said before that the real start of Johto is the theft of the starter Pokemon, so here we are!

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He’s a Chikorita stan, and, really, who can blame him?

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The police officer asks us to identify the thief.

I'd recognize him anywhere: the enemy of all of Paper Mario.

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Sticker Star. D:<

I started playing video games when I was 5 years old. I played a lot of bad games—some of them I even recognized at the time as bad games (Build-a-Bear Workshop on Nintendo DS, I am looking at you). And, yet, there is a difference between picking up a game like Build-a-Bear Workshop on Nintendo DS or The Polar Express on Nintendo Gamecube.

The difference is expectation.

While this isn’t always true, when you’re going into a licensed game or a game from a small studio, you generally go in with lowered expectations.

Nintendo is not a small studio, nor is Intelligent Systems. (Yes, of Fire Emblem fame!) Moreover, while Build-a-Bear Workshop was a boring minigame collection and The Polar Express was an ugly re-telling of a movie that most people already consider ugly (not me, though), Paper Mario: Sticker Star is a concept that simply should not have left the cutting room floor.

I don’t mean the paper jokes being kicked into the ground. (While some people have issues with the newer installments in the franchise making paper a central theme, as opposed to just an art style choice, I don’t mind. I think a lot of people were surprised by the relatively dark plots of Thousand-Year Door and Super Paper Mario and decided that that was a core part of the Paper Mario series… as if the original didn’t exist???)

I mean the core gameplay being self-destructive.

What do I mean by that? Let me explain. Paper Mario Sticker Star is an action-adventure role-playing game. (A role-playing game like the original Paper Mario and Thousand-Year Door. An action-adventure game like Super Paper Mario. While I honor people who dislike the genre shift, it was not a change that came out of nowhere.) The battle system is inherently a turn-based RPG. The first two games in the franchise flavored its turn-based RPG battle system with “action commands”: small actions the player takes to increase the amount of damage dealt to enemies or reduce the amount of damage taken from enemies. (Super Paper Mario isn’t a turn-based RPG. ...Yes, really. I think it’s a fascinating “black sheep” of the family, though.)

How does Paper Mario Sticker Star follow up?

It’s in the name: stickers.

“Oh, so the stickers take the place of the action commands—collectibles to add extra flair to attacks, like the badge system?”

No. Stickers—consumable items—take the place of all attacks.

“Wait, if stickers are consumable, then all attacks are finite.”

Yes.

“So battles must have big rewards for participating in them, right? Especially since the action component implies many battles can simply be avoided.”

Well, thank goodness most battles can still be avoided, because all battles give you is coins.

“What are coins used for?”

More. Stickers.

That’s right: The battle system in Paper Mario Sticker Star is based off the system of diminishing returns! The best way to play is to hoard stickers found just lying around and beeline it to the boss!

Although the bosses are defined as being incredibly weak by the key items you get in each stage….

Never before have I seen a game whose core mechanics are simply broken. That is why I consider Paper Mario Sticker Star the worst video game I have ever played—on top of self-defeating mechanics, it is just boring! Boring presentation—there is one (1) original character design. Boring story—it’s just big bad Bowser, and he’s not even funny. There aren’t even any fun glitches or ridiculous voice-acting. It’s just… boring.

Even if you don’t like, for example, Super Paper Mario, can you call it boring? I’m going to say no.

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As for my name, I'm Paper Bowser (not to be confused with my 3D counterpart).

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We don't get along.

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Oh, and he's Goombario.

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Goombario has a Rash nature (+ Special Attack, - Special Defense).

I wish I could say something about whether that's accurate to Goombario's character or not, but partners in Paper Mario 1 have no character. >_> See for yourself how many lines the guy has…

AND GUYS DID YOU KNOW THAT CHIKORITA GETS RAZOR LEAF AT LEVEL 6 IN THIS GAME. Eat your heart out, grass types stuck with Absorb!
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Now we have several areas where we can encounter Pokemon before arriving at the site of the first gym.
  • Route 29
  • Route 46
  • Route 30
  • Dark Cave
  • Route 31
Technically, you can save Route 46 and Dark Cave for later (as in, training for the final gym later), but does anyone actually do that? 🤔

Now I know there are things I can do to maximize my chances of getting a Geodude (AKA: Bow down to me, Johto) ASAP.

But, realistically, with lorelocke rules, I can't guarantee a Rattata to return to Route 46 at night for the only Rattata/Geodude encounter table.

Besides, I'm not a fan of forcing myself to play at certain times (see: my rules). ...And, yes, I know time manipulation is a thing, but, again, lorelocke rules make these early encounters so hit and miss to begin with.
  • i.e: Rockslide! (Geodude)
  • i.e: Lord of Agricultural Pests, The Colo Colo (Rattata)
  • i.e: Vile Poison (Weedle)
...Yikes, a terrifying amount of species have the potential to end my run IMMEDIATELY.

So, at this point, I care more about the lore rules than the species.

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Speaking of species, this is the species of our first encounter!

Sentret, like Chikorita, has 5 lore rules.

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Can’t switch out of battle against Dragon and Poison pokemon. Can’t use Dragon or Poison type moves. Can’t be in the same party with a pokemon whose main typing is Dragon or Poison. Must know a Ground type move if possible.

Johto has a number of both dragon (Clair, some of Lance's team) and poison (Team Rocket) Pokemon. With Symbol of Imperial Authority, I would already be setting Sentret/Furret up to take a hit, which isn't the line's forte, but Team Rocket, at least, is not generally difficult. I don't think Sentret/Furret has any Poison or dragon moves to miss out on (except Toxic and potentially Hidden Power). As for ground moves, this rule would require me to use my Dig ™ on Sentret/Furret. The shard move tutors (for Mud Slap) are in the post-game. That helps against some poison type Pokemon, but not the Pokemon that represent the one actually difficult Team Rocket fight (Goldenrod Radio Tower Petrel's exploding Koffing/Weezing, which have Levitate) and not for the scariest dragon types we'll be facing (Kingdra and Dragonite) either… >_>

Would I Use This Pokemon?
Yes.

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Route 29= Gloomtail the Sentret: Echinemon.

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Gloomtail is a dragon that spews poison: precisely the type of enemy that he wants to kill! Gloomtail has an Adamant nature (+ Attack, - Special Attack).

Gloomtail may not be a good tank, but I think I can set him up to be a dragon (and pollution?) slayer!

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Him!! *bows down*

But will RNGesus be merciful to me? 🙏

Geodude (non-Alolan) has 3 lore rules.

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This pokemon falls off the nearest wall/mountain as you attempt to catch it. There is a 35% chance for every non-Steel/Rock/Ground/Flying/Pokemon with levitate that was used against Geodude/Graveler/Golem (or for the pokemon who leads the party in Let’s Go) to die (after the battle). Must know at least one move with the word “Rock” in it if possible.

OK, if I'd gotten a Route 29 Pidgey, I would have been fine, but I didn't, so if I choose to go for this (which, spoilers, I will): I have two choices: risk Goombario to make it easier to catch or risk Gloomtail to make it harder to catch. Luckily, this is the early game, so spamming Poke Balls could actually work.

As for the effects of the lore rule if I manage to catch Geodude, who isn't running Rock Blast or Rock Slide (or even Rock Smash) on their Geodude?

Would I Use This Pokemon?
Yes. (Preferred lorerule)

EDIT: @RubyClaw , does “every Pokemon used against” mean Pokemon that take damage against the Rockslide Pokemon? I realize, looking back, I implicitly assumed that meaning (especially since you can catch Geodude so early on in Johto, when you’re unlikely to have many reserves). If not, I’ll keep that in mind for future catches. >_>
Gloomtail, it's time for your first trial!

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AND A CRIT TACKLE BRINGS GLOOMTAIL FROM 8 HP TO 1! This thing REALLY wants to kill you! Luckily, I have…

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Where did I get SEVEN POTIONS from? I remember getting two. ._.

Route 46= (Flint) Cragley the Geodude: Rockslide.

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Cragley also has an Adamant nature (+ Attack, - Special Attack), my goodness! And before you fret, Sturdy sucks before gen 5, so this is the better nature.

...But are you a killer?

D100= 1-35 means Gloomtail is dead (to correspond to the 35% chance).
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It’s an 18. Yeah, Gloomtail is dead. Your sacrifice is not in vain, though, and your adamancy will live on!

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Route 30 gives me… a Kakuna. Grinding will be…
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Kakuna has 3 lore rules. (Vile Poison is only an option for Weedle and Beedrill, phew!)


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(To explain this image, I was going to reroll a 1, Vile Poison.)
Only comes in effect when it is a Beedrill. This pokemon travels between our world and the afterlife, shares both the sorrows and wisdom of the dead, and demands taking part in mourning them. When another pokemon in your party dies (not by being sacrificed) while Beedrill is in your party, you may reroll once the lore rule of another pokemon in your party. If the new lore rule is activated upon catching, it is activated now instead. If you choose not to reroll, you must release Beedrill.

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If I get a terrible lore rule, this is a ticket out, and if I'm happy with my team's lore rules, losing Beedrill isn't a big loss.

Would I Use This Pokemon?
Yes. (It will suck to grind it up, though. ._.)

@RubyClaw , does this re-roll happen one time total? Or every time a Pokemon dies (so you would need to pick a different Pokemon to re-roll each time if you want to keep Beedrill)?

Route 30= Timpani the Kakuna: Traveler to the Afterlife.

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Timpani has a Calm (+ Special Defense, - Attack) nature. Yikes. Re: the name. If you know, you know.

Again, you are going to be terrible to train up, but that's the theme of this whole challenge, isn't it?

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Why, yes, I am committing to this ~overly fancy~ font. Unless it’s too hard to read, in which case my commitment will waver.

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I forgot how restrictive non-Flash vision is in this game. ._. (Also, hi, dusty screen!)

Oh well! I don't need to see to get…

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The obligatory Zubat encounter! Thanks, Dark Cave! (not /s)

Zubat has 4 lore rules.

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If this pokemon kills a pokemon in battle, it must stay in and kill a second pokemon (if that trainer has any). If it is switched out before that it is considered fatigued and can't be used in battle until you sacrifice either a non-bought revive or items worth 2000 pokeyen.

So this isn't an issue once you've got the awesome Crobat, but this will be difficult with a Zubat (which takes a long time to get good moves in this generation). Even so…

Would I Use This Pokemon?
Yes.

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OK, so this thing is resisting my Pokeballs. It's level 2, so I'm worried I'll kill it, but it's not like Chikorita is an offensive threat… >_>


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Praise be! Razor Leaf makes this catch possible!

And what's possible came true! :D

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Dark Cave= Tubba Blub(ba) the Zubat: Blood Thirst.

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A Crobat sure can seem invincible, and in the game, Tubba Blubba definitely has Blood Thirst! Tubba Blub has a Naughty nature (+ Attack, - Special Defense), which I would say fits them in-game… but it fits their victims too. >_>
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Let's pop into Violet City to heal and think about my Route 31 encounter.

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Gah, stay away from my precious Cragley, evil water type user!

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With Chikorita on my team, I don't really want Bellsprout. (And, honestly, even those who chose Totodile or Cyndaquil aren't necessarily gunning for Bellsprout. >_>)
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does this look like the face of mercy

I already have the version-exclusive Kanto bug (the Weedle line for SoulSilver VS the Caterpie line for HeartGold). There is the version-exclusive Johto bug to consider, but Ledyba is SoulSilver's, and it sucks.

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Not even lore rules save it. I don't meet the requirements for Chosen of Ishtar, I don't want to limit my Chosen options with Religious Harbinger, and Lord of Agricultural Pests is devastating for… obvious reasons. >_>

So that leaves three encounters I'm interested in:
  • Pidgey
  • Rattata
  • Hoothoot

I want Hoothoot the most, so I'll pop back here at night. (That will also allow me to grab Gastly in Sprout Tower… if I remember to do that.)

*narrator voice* She does not do that. In fact, she forgets to play that night, so she changes her 3DS' clock the next morning.

Which is NOT cheating, Bowsermom! D:<

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Yay, this is exactly the Pokemon I wanted! :D (Which was NOT a guarantee.)

Hoothoot has 4 lore rules.

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You are not allowed to open a trainer battle using Hoothoot/Noctowl. If on the sixth turn of battle with a trainer Hoothoot/Noctowl is in your party and is not in battle, you must switch it into the battle immediately if possible. Cancel this lorelocke rule if it was caught with a time ball.
Luckily, this line is pretty bulky, so it should be able to survive most not super effective attacks. Even so, I'll EV train for defense and special defense. An additional note: This rule actually has great synergy with Goombario's Symbol of Imperial Authority because I will be starting most major battles with him but CAN’T start trainer battles with Hoothoot.

Would I Use This Pokemon?
Yes.

Now to catch-

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That was when Bowser realized: She'd fucked up.

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Like if you cry every time. 😭

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Never again. 😤

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See you… after the grind!

QOTD: Do you want me to input my Pokemon's IVs in an IV calculator, or do you want to preserve the ~mystery~?
 

RubyClaw

Challenge Seeker, Completionist and Rule Designer
🌱Featurer
Writer
Screenshotter
Team Omega
Pokédex No.
22
Caught
Jun 9, 2019
Messages
2,211
Location
Kanto Route 1, 1% encounter rate (Israel)
Nature
Calm
Pronouns
He/Him
Pokémon Type
  1. Fire
  2. Psychic
*Removes old lorefull tomes dust from my shoulders. Who summoned me?!!! Just kidding, happy to be here and always happy to answer lorerule questions! It really helps making sure the rules are as clear as possible and even sometimes catch mistakes.

Now let’s see:

Geodude Rockslide - "does “every Pokemon used against” mean Pokemon that take damage against the Rockslide Pokemon?" - Sadly nope, it means every pokemon that was sent out against Geodude, even if it wasn’t hit or switched immediately after you met Geodude (unlike Vile Poison that asks about whether you were hit or not). Geodude is a big boulder, if it is in the battlefield, that means it fell out of some mountain before that and had the potential to crush you!

Kakuna Traveler to the Afterlife - does this re-roll happen one time total? Or every time a Pokemon dies (so you would need to pick a different Pokemon to re-roll each time if you want to keep Beedrill)? – Happens every time a pokemon dies! And technically, nothing is stopping you from picking the same pokemon more than once. Beedrill just wants to make sure you honor the dead well and listen to their demands.

I’m having a great time, your posts are always so fun to read! A mix of mostly good natures, especially for the important pokemon. And damn, too bad about that Hoothoot!

About the IVs – up to you! I never check them myself, but it could be interesting hearing your thoughts honestly.
 

RisingMew

Currently yelling about Sw/Sh
Artist
Writer
Team Alpha
Pokédex No.
348
Caught
Jul 2, 2019
Messages
116
Nature
Relaxed
Pronouns
She/Her
Pokémon Type
  1. Fire
  2. Dragon
Pokédex Entry
A calm and nocturnal creature with a fondness for reading.
I was also referring to the Mario & Luigi games as well with my earlier reply--I've heard some people lump all of them together as the "Mario RPGs" so I wasn't sure which term to use XD Neither of the ones you listed are my personal favorite, so it's understandable why you might not have finished them :0 Dream Team in particular was meh because I think the series works better in pixel style/2D to be completely honest! Since you've got a DS and seem to be a Bowser fan, I'd recommend Bowser's Inside Story to you if you're interested in trying the series out again sometime--it's a lot of fun and has a surprisingly engaging story!

Johto's earlygame encounters can be tricky sometimes since you can only buy so many Pokèballs with the money you get from the trainer battles, and there are so many different areas to get 'mon from! I'm really sorry that you lost out on the Hoothoot though :( It's also unfortunate that Gloomtail got the boot because of Cragley, but an Adamant Geodude is well worth the sacrifice imo! He'll definitely be a boon for the upcoming Falkner fight :0

As for the Question of the Day, I think it'd be fun to see the IVs!
 

Empty Sun

that's right, buttholes
Artist
Pokédex No.
566
Caught
Jul 22, 2019
Messages
572
Location
The Moon
Nature
Impish
Pokémon Type
  1. Normal
  2. ???
Pokédex Entry
It might eat you. It might your relatives.
how dare you. your days are numbered
ah yes the ole "running out of balls" problem, no hoothoot for you
 

Lumaeus

The Hero of Vine
Screenshotter
Team Alpha
Pokédex No.
239
Caught
Jul 1, 2019
Messages
466
Location
Kokiri Forest
Nature
Brave
Pronouns
he/him
Pokémon Type
  1. Grass
  2. Cute
Pokédex Entry
This Pokémon is trying its best to fight the good fight.
Reverse way? How so?
My experience is primarily with the early games. I beat N64 many times, SPM at least once, and got nearly through TYD before having to return it to the game rental store [RIP Blockbuster].

Goombario has a new line for every map tile and every character in the game. He has a lot of passive characterization. This is slander!

It strikes me at this point how deeply suspicious I find this generator. The fact that it's so invested in convincing us it's "true" isn't establishing much credibility.

QOTD: Do you want me to input my Pokemon's IVs in an IV calculator, or do you want to preserve the ~mystery~?
I'd never considered such a thing, but I wouldn't object to your use of it.

Congrats on some gr9 catches and my sympathies on the landslide that brought you down.
 

CasualGameFreak

Discord Resident Extraordinaire
Writer
Team Alpha
Pokédex No.
130
Caught
Jun 23, 2019
Messages
446
Location
Flower Paradise
Nature
Quirky
Pronouns
they/she
Pokémon Type
  1. Grass
Pokédex Entry
Despite being a Grass-type, Casual is a flaming lesbian. Fire and Grass don't usually mix, but somehow it works out here.
Oh boy, a fledgling team with lots of potential... and a Calm Kakuna. I've never been a big fan of Beedrill because it falls off harder than other early-game Bugs later on, and it doesn't help that I love Butterfree as well.

Shame about Gloomtail, but hey, maybe you'll get a way to revive him. You never know!

With regards to Origami King... ask and you shall receive!
So I mentioned in my previous post that I consider Origami King as on par with Paper Mario 64 in terms of quality. Now that definitely seems to be a flaming hot take, what with 64 being nigh-universally liked by the fanbase and Origami King being as contentious as it is, but let's dive a bit deeper in.

64 was the first one, so obviously there's some nostalgia points there, and it does hit several of the same points that make Thousand-Year Door so beloved. But it really seems like a proto-TTYD in several areas as well, and TTYD would take a lot of what it did and do it better. Plus, 64 has some outright flaws as well (immediately jumping out to me is the fact that they just don't let you do action commands until you get the tutorial for them), and it all comes together so that I'd give it an A- or B+ compared to TTYD and Super's A.

So, Origami King? Being compared to the original trio? Well, let's start with the kind of bad. People love to complain about all toads, which is... kind of true for this one? But not really. Multiple important characters show up that aren't so (Bobby immediately jumps to mind), plus you've got more minor characters of other races. Plus, I have to give a shout-out to the villain -- in an era where fans are complaining about the oversaturation of Toad characters, having the villain's goal be Toad genocide really came off to me as a nod to the discontent and I love it.

Other good things? Well, the world is beautiful, really putting the Switch graphics to good use. The story may be a bit simplistic at first (save the princess!) but gains a heck of a lot more depth as the game goes on. I really like the puzzle element of the battle system, and the boss fights are just as good about it, complete with assistance available for those who need it (and the money you pay for it is a pittance compared to what you're often getting). And speaking of the bosses -- I must say, it's incredibly cathartic to be able to beat up some of the damn Things. And it's even fun to fight them!

Some people don't like how battles only give coins and confetti, but they don't often get spent on in-battle things, and battles are actually bearable because your basic Jump and Hammer are infinite use. (Stronger ones are limited use, but I usually saved those for bosses anyway)

So overall, I'd consider both of 'em as pretty dang good games with some flaws, but the bad is often outshined by the good and leaves a game that I have fond memories of.
 

Spectacles

Rule Maker
Team Alpha
Pokédex No.
139
Caught
Jun 24, 2019
Messages
690
Location
Pennsylvania
Nature
Jolly
Pronouns
she/her
Pokémon Type
  1. Fairy
Pokédex Entry
It hides deep inside caves where no light ever reaches it and remains virtually motionless there. ~Pokemon Crystal, entry #52
Omg I am LOVING all the names ahhh!!! Excellent choice naming the rival Sticker. What a baffling game. I'll never understand what made them stray from the original games so far. As much as I did enjoy Origami King, it still doesn't hold a candle to the original two, and I really don't think it's nostalgia that's making me say that. I wasn't a huge fan of Super Paper Mario but at least it had the same vibes as the originals. Ugh I was so excited about Gloomtail and then he promptly dies 😭 And omg I feel your pain with that failed Hoothoot catch. What a plot twist after all the build up you spent saying this was the Pokemon you wanted!!
 

PsyduckEnthusiast

Conqueror of the Celadon Gym
Pokédex No.
4668
Caught
Jun 21, 2021
Messages
36
Location
United Kingdom (UK)
Nature
Bashful
Pronouns
he/him
Pokémon Type
  1. Water
  2. Fighting
Pokédex Entry
a person who is very enthusiastic about the pokemon Psyduck, primarily because their first ever shiny was a psyduck, which they caught in their past.
That was when Bowser realized: She'd fucked up.

First of all. Big F for the Hoothoot.

Second, I can't say I'm much of a paper Mario fan (I know, it's disgraceful, I haven't even played a paper Mario game🤣) but that sticker star rant awoke an feeling of anger I haven't felt since I found out Mario All Stars was getting yeeted off the eshop for no reason (side note, WHY???). I mean I haven't even played sticker star, and I admit if I had the means to do it I would try and get into the paper Mario series and play through all the games, but now I feel like I don't want to touch sticker star with a Master rod from the other end of a lake 🤣

Anyway, I enjoyed the first proper chapter of this run, and I'm excited for the next one! :)
 

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