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Serious Coronavirus Public Discussion

Rumors

Or so they say...
Writer
Pokédex No.
258
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Jul 1, 2019
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1,015
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A Pokémon shrouded in hearsay and urban legend, spoken of only in whispered tales and hushed gossip.
Yeah, the asymptomatic thing makes it hard to get precise numbers before you even consider false negatives, misdiagnosis, failure to report, etc.. I mean, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if I had an asymptomatic infection myself at some point already considering I work retail (though this is unlikely since it'd likely mean either most of my store would have had to been asymptomatic too or I'm godlike at not spreading diseases without being aware I have it). I dunno if 10x is an accurate estimate or not as that seems like a "let's play it safe" or "worst case" estimate. But I'm not going to attempt to refute that since it could be very well the case and, at the very least, I definitely do agree that the numbers are very likely to be higher than reported pretty much globally and I don't think we'll get precise numbers until after things have chilled, if ever.


At least where I live things feel like they've kinda stabilized. Not back to normal, of course, but things haven't really improved or worsened in any notable fashion that I've seen in the past couple of months-ish. Hopefully the rest of you guys are seeing at least some semblance of stability to offset the flux we've all been in pretty much all year.
 

Skarmizard

Metal dragon bird/Smash ‘locker
Writer
Screenshotter
Pokédex No.
1002
Caught
Nov 12, 2019
Messages
1,598
Location
Texas
Nature
Quiet
Pronouns
he/him
Pokémon Type
Dragon, Steel
Pokédex Entry
This Skarmory/Charizard fusion is very rare and tends to be quiet and shy until befriended. Also writes and is a huge fan of Smash Bros.
I get that the number is still a very low percent of the population as a whole (now around 6.1 million confirmed cases, so about 2%) and at least half of those have recovered, but...I guess just the raw numbers are what makes it so frustrating. And of course, it's probably actually a lot higher because of underreported/asymptomatic cases.

One person at my job actually had a confirmed case about a month ago, but luckily it was pretty mild. She's recovered and no one else has gotten sick, but it just makes me wonder "who's next?". Especially since another one had to quarantine around the same time since a family member got it, but luckily no one else did and they've recovered as well.

Locally, things have been pretty stable. Even Hurricane Laura approaching didn't cause panic buying like what we saw a few months ago (it looked like it was beelining toward us, but it shifted east right before landfall, so we got spared). Hopefully the evacuees we got from Laura won't cause more cases.
 

JavierE64

Masks are so 2016!!! But don´t forget to wear one
Writer
Team Alpha
Pokédex No.
310
Caught
Jul 1, 2019
Messages
758
Location
Perú
Nature
Modest
Pronouns
He/Him
Pokémon Type
Grass, Water
Pokédex Entry
The Master of both Light and Darkness; who loves the Violent and Dramatic, and the Fun and Adorable.
I´m not gonna lie, things are not going well in Perú: we recently became one of the countries with the most numbers of infections in the world; there´s a heated political debate going on right now, alongside some heavy incidents; and I´m not able to go outside due to my asthma, unless is absolutely neccesary. It´s been really rough, and I needed to vent some of my frustrations. Thanks for the consideration.
 

Rumors

Or so they say...
Writer
Pokédex No.
258
Caught
Jul 1, 2019
Messages
1,015
Pronouns
male
Pokémon Type
Fire
Pokédex Entry
A Pokémon shrouded in hearsay and urban legend, spoken of only in whispered tales and hushed gossip.
One of my co-workers now has a boyfriend who is being tested for Covid, which means she is stuck in quarantine until the results come back. Unless they come back positive, in which case she'll have to stay in quarantine until she gets tested and gets the results. This is the first time the disease itself has had an impact on me, rather than just all the legal and economic stuff it's caused.

As far as I know, I'm in the clear. That might change if she gets tested positive since we work the same position and there are parts of the job where close proximity cannot be avoided, such as the walk-in cooler, but that's currently just speculation on my part. Although, with the only other two people in our position out of town this weekend, it's going to be busy at work for me for a few days.
 

Skarmizard

Metal dragon bird/Smash ‘locker
Writer
Screenshotter
Pokédex No.
1002
Caught
Nov 12, 2019
Messages
1,598
Location
Texas
Nature
Quiet
Pronouns
he/him
Pokémon Type
Dragon, Steel
Pokédex Entry
This Skarmory/Charizard fusion is very rare and tends to be quiet and shy until befriended. Also writes and is a huge fan of Smash Bros.
Donald and Melania Trump tested positive two days ago. No matter your political lean, that's kind of scary to think about. So far they seem to be all right, but considering he's 74...
I'm hoping that maybe he'll do something a little more aggressive against it once he (presumably) recovers.
 

Clockenstein

starfinder
Moderator
🌱Featurer
Writer
Team Alpha
Pokédex No.
39
Caught
Jun 12, 2019
Messages
630
Location
~/forums/nuzf/users/c/clockenstein/data/public/
Nature
Adamant
Pronouns
he/him
Pokémon Type
Fighting, Ghost
Pokédex Entry
Fatal kernel error: 'DEX_BASIC' not found.
I have to say it's funny poring over twitter for tweets about "karma". It's not really all that likely he dies, though I presume quite a lot of people out there are hoping otherwise. But anyway, if karma was real, Trump isn't even the worst offender when it comes to national leaders who were infected -- in my opinion, that title goes to Brazil's Jair Bolsonaro. And he got by just fine.

I don't think Trump's experience with the virus will particularly change US policy on it, either. On one hand, while Boris has had the closest call with it so far, and while it did change some of the British Tories' messaging, it doesn't seem to me as though it significantly changed their approach, as an example. Maybe some of the UK people here might be able to give me a better assessment of how it changed things, if it did?
 

ratikate

four meerkats in a trenchcoat
Artist
Screenshotter
Team Delta
Pokédex No.
200
Caught
Jun 30, 2019
Messages
407
Nature
Impish
Pronouns
she/her
Pokémon Type
Water, Fairy
Pokédex Entry
This Pokémon is said to be scared of its own shadow. It can often be found sitting in the rain.
It seems like he has had a fairly bad case of it -- he was confirmed to have been on supplemental oxygen with a blood oxygen level of 93 (95 is the lower bound of normal) as well as on dexamethasone, which is a steroid that is typically only administered to patients with a severe case (requiring supplemental oxygen counts). At his age and condition, it's honestly not surprising that he would experience moderate to severe symptoms.

Statistically though he will more likely than not pull through.
 
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Skarmizard

Metal dragon bird/Smash ‘locker
Writer
Screenshotter
Pokédex No.
1002
Caught
Nov 12, 2019
Messages
1,598
Location
Texas
Nature
Quiet
Pronouns
he/him
Pokémon Type
Dragon, Steel
Pokédex Entry
This Skarmory/Charizard fusion is very rare and tends to be quiet and shy until befriended. Also writes and is a huge fan of Smash Bros.
So things have utterly exploded in the past couple weeks-something like a million+ new cases within the past week. I'm dreading what the next few weeks/months are going to be like...

I am hearing there are two very promising vaccines that may be available soon, but I worry how bad things might get before we get to that point.
 

Skarmizard

Metal dragon bird/Smash ‘locker
Writer
Screenshotter
Pokédex No.
1002
Caught
Nov 12, 2019
Messages
1,598
Location
Texas
Nature
Quiet
Pronouns
he/him
Pokémon Type
Dragon, Steel
Pokédex Entry
This Skarmory/Charizard fusion is very rare and tends to be quiet and shy until befriended. Also writes and is a huge fan of Smash Bros.
...So I was originally coming in here to vent about how there were over 4 million new cases here in the US just in November, and I don't know why the hell people seem like they aren't even trying to do anything to slow it down...and then I got a call from my dad earlier that he and my stepmom may have been exposed to someone who tested positive. The good news is, that was about a week ago and so far neither one is symptomatic (and the person who tested positive is also doing all right), but...my dad's 60, so if he does get sick, I don't know what'll happen (he's in really good health though).

Between that and how bad things have gotten over the past month (that's over 1% of the country in just a month), and the fact that it doesn't look like things are going to get better until at least spring when the vaccines start rolling out to the general public, I'm really getting worried.

It does sound like vaccines will start going out to medical front-liners in the next few weeks, but...that's not incredibly reassuring.

I really wish I lived in New Zealand-they've done a far better job stopping it there.
 

Rumors

Or so they say...
Writer
Pokédex No.
258
Caught
Jul 1, 2019
Messages
1,015
Pronouns
male
Pokémon Type
Fire
Pokédex Entry
A Pokémon shrouded in hearsay and urban legend, spoken of only in whispered tales and hushed gossip.
Hope your parents there will be okay. Or even better, come back negative if they get tested.


And yeah, I'm honestly not surprised at the spikes recently. As a retail worker, I feel confident I can blame Thanksgiving. People were crowding into stores to get their turkeys and junk, ignoring social distancing, and some people, especially the ones who live under rocks and only come out in the holiday season, weren't wearing masks even though it is legally required. We have someone posted at the front for that all day, but they can't catch everyone when it's super busy. On top of that, I remember seeing news reports on Thanksgiving Day showing pictures of people crowding into homes or restaurants, ignoring government mandates, to celebrate the holiday.

Turkey is more important than safety, I suppose. At least Black Friday traffic in the streets appeared lower than usual. (My store is grocery only, so nobody comes to us on Black Friday, thankfully.)

Based on this though, I fully expect another spike after Christmas, except all across the world. While I'd like to think other countries might be smart enough to learn from our Thanksgiving coronafest, there's too many idiots distributed evenly across the world for that and they'll probably repeat the same junk that happened here. I'm just thankful I'm in a low risk area since the virus really does not like the environment here, though winter may get dry enough for it to finally have a chance to propagate.


Some side notes: it's interesting to mention that the U.S. has done 200,000,000 tests, more than any country, though in terms of tests per 1 million the U.S. is at #18 (we really should strive to be at least a bit higher there, IMO, considering our population density). India and China, the two countries with higher population, have actually done fewer tests than the U.S. China still claims they have less than 90k cases, on which I am calling bulls**t. Meanwhile, apparently Belgium is suffering the worst with nearly 1.5k deaths per million cases. I've not heard a thing about Belgium in this whole pandemic mess, so that was a little surprising.

On the bright side though? A quick glance suggests all countries that have data for it have done more tests than there are cases. So the issues with this pandemic seems to be related less to testing and the like and probably more to do with herding the cats known as people.

But yeah, this website has a lot of good data it looks like. Though, gotta keep in mind not all countries may be honest or accurate in their reporting. Like, say... China over there for example.
 

Rumors

Or so they say...
Writer
Pokédex No.
258
Caught
Jul 1, 2019
Messages
1,015
Pronouns
male
Pokémon Type
Fire
Pokédex Entry
A Pokémon shrouded in hearsay and urban legend, spoken of only in whispered tales and hushed gossip.
Had the same coworker get exposed again, this time via her daughter, apparently. Although she came back negative again, thankfully. I assume daughter is negative too since she was only out like three days this time.


Meanwhile, talking about that with another coworker kinda led to a conversation that was ticking me off a bit. I mentioned I was largely staying at home when not at work and not seeing my grandparents much, and wore a mask when I did, due to them being vulnerable. I don't remember exactly what was said, but that got him agitated and he basically went into a rant/lecture/sermon about how this could go on for years and how he would rather risk getting sick than be bored and shut in and how the elderly probably feel the same way and would rather risk getting sick and dying from the disease rather than be bored. When I attempted to interject about how I didn't have the right to risk other people's heath just so I can go out freely, he started going on about how my doing so was "taking people's lives out of God's hands" and how that is, apparently, a sin.

I didn't do it because he's already well known for being incredibly stubborn and hanging onto the words of his churches' preachers along with whatever radio show preachers he listens to (and I've heard some questionable things on that show like them being hyper critical on testing people for the virus way back in the spring when I had to hitch rides), but I really wanted to dig up something like the parable of the good samaratan and beat him over the head with it.


It's attitudes like that one that are the real problem these days and why we can't just social distance this stupid pandemic into oblivion. >.>
 

Skarmizard

Metal dragon bird/Smash ‘locker
Writer
Screenshotter
Pokédex No.
1002
Caught
Nov 12, 2019
Messages
1,598
Location
Texas
Nature
Quiet
Pronouns
he/him
Pokémon Type
Dragon, Steel
Pokédex Entry
This Skarmory/Charizard fusion is very rare and tends to be quiet and shy until befriended. Also writes and is a huge fan of Smash Bros.
So it's been over two weeks since my dad and stepmom got exposed, but neither one ever got sick thankfully (and the person they were around is also doing better-I don't think they got very sick either). So that's a huge relief.

Also, they officially authorized a vaccine to be used, so that's another good sign, although it'll be spring before the general public can get it, since medical workers are getting it first.

But yeah, I'm sick of people who act like "it's no big deal" or "I don't want to wear a mask/social distance". And they wonder why things are out of control right now 😒
I didn't really go out even before the pandemic, but I definitely wouldn't right now-far better to be bored at home than sick or dead.
(Don't really ever get bored at home anyway, so...)
 

JavierE64

Masks are so 2016!!! But don´t forget to wear one
Writer
Team Alpha
Pokédex No.
310
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Jul 1, 2019
Messages
758
Location
Perú
Nature
Modest
Pronouns
He/Him
Pokémon Type
Grass, Water
Pokédex Entry
The Master of both Light and Darkness; who loves the Violent and Dramatic, and the Fun and Adorable.
Places such as CInemas, Casinos, and the like are open for business; and with the holiday season approaching, I´m quite concerned about a potential increase in Covid spread. At least my family won´t visit anyone for christmass, thank goodness, but i don´t know about the rest.

Also, Cinema chain Cineplanet literally laid off ALL of its employee in the middle of the pandemic, just to keep all of their money.
People are talking smack of them on Social Media, to make sure nobody supports this horrible business.
 

A-K-TheLittleFairy

Kanto League Champion
Artist
Team Alpha
Pokédex No.
360
Caught
Jul 3, 2019
Messages
154
Location
Hoenn
Nature
Quiet
Pronouns
She/her
Pokémon Type
Fairy, Normal
Pokédex Entry
Tired or inspired. Loves Cappuccino.
Yeah, so Germany will get into a second full shutdown this Wednesday... I'm glad to have a job that's pretty secure even in such times but this crisis is mentally wrecking me... I'm afraid of all those financial existences of many others being less lucky than me...the and that being shortly before the holidays. Of course the health of the people have top priority but I guess the most are just fed up with the whole mess of diverse rules trying to reduce the infections that were more confusing and frustrating than actually helping. And while everyone else getting the vaccine before us where it was developed, why? I also hear of many people who just are too afraid of it that they will refuse getting vaccinated, I know it normally take years to develop a secure vaccine and testing it but seriously the terror of the Pandemic can't end if too less will accept getting vaccinated or just ignoring the rules and not caring for others by keeping the distance.
 

THKS

The Trainer behind Franklin.
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Pokédex No.
2912
Caught
Nov 15, 2020
Messages
214
Location
Sydney
Nature
Timid
Pronouns
He/Him
Pokémon Type
Ground, Normal
Pokédex Entry
"No matter what I do, I do it just for you."
New cases have been leaked near where I live. After I get through the final work day of the year, the best that I can do is just bunker in my house, occasionally giving walks to Ghost, at least until the cases are maintained.

It had to be before the last day of work for the year, didn't it?
 

THKS

The Trainer behind Franklin.
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Pokédex No.
2912
Caught
Nov 15, 2020
Messages
214
Location
Sydney
Nature
Timid
Pronouns
He/Him
Pokémon Type
Ground, Normal
Pokédex Entry
"No matter what I do, I do it just for you."
There are some new updates regarding the cases over the days. The suburb from where I live has recently been locked down indefinitely. While I can still potentially give Ghost walks, and maybe shop if it was necessary, it means that Christmas will most likely be cancelled for this year, which sucks. Corona-chan is such a grinch.

It's times like this that I wanted this year to be a write-off.
 

mizar

young, dumb, and full of you know ;)
Artist
Team Delta
Pokédex No.
76
Caught
Jun 16, 2019
Messages
271
Location
lost
Nature
Quiet
Pronouns
they/them
Pokémon Type
Dragon
the news has not been kind to those who dont like looking at needles
 

Rumors

Or so they say...
Writer
Pokédex No.
258
Caught
Jul 1, 2019
Messages
1,015
Pronouns
male
Pokémon Type
Fire
Pokédex Entry
A Pokémon shrouded in hearsay and urban legend, spoken of only in whispered tales and hushed gossip.
Speaking of needles, looks like retail workers are among the groups receiving the vaccine before the general public. Not sure if that's true nationally or internationally, however. But, that means I'll be getting it much sooner than expected, though I don't know any particular date or time frame on this.
 

Rumors

Or so they say...
Writer
Pokédex No.
258
Caught
Jul 1, 2019
Messages
1,015
Pronouns
male
Pokémon Type
Fire
Pokédex Entry
A Pokémon shrouded in hearsay and urban legend, spoken of only in whispered tales and hushed gossip.
So, double posting, but I got the vaccine today. Didn't know it was today until I was already at work (our pharmacy administered it) and it was about 2-3 weeks sooner than expected. I was a little surprised that the only people who volunteered for the vaccine in my department were my manager and myself. I guess people are nervous about new vaccines? If so, doing this for science I suppose.

So, as far as I know, there's a few different vaccines out there. The one I was given is the "Moderna Vaccine". This one is administered in two stages. A shot in the arm today and a follow-up shot in a month after which I'll be considered vaccinated. The shot itself actually hurt very little, which surprised me since I've gotten vaccines in the past that felt like they burned when injected. This one though? Just a sharp pinprick going in and then coming out. Less painful than donating blood. My arm's a little sore right now where I got stuck, but that's typical for vaccines. The pamphlet they gave me mentions a few potential side effects, but it's the usual stuff you'll see on medications.

Important notes from glancing over the pamphlet: this particular vaccine is not FDA approved (nor are any other Covid vaccines yet), but is rather being administered through the "Emergency Use Authorization". It's currently unknown how long the vaccine is effective for. The vaccine itself also does not contain Covid among its ingredients, so it's impossible to catch the disease from the vaccine. In the U.S, it's also only available for people who are 18+. So, anyone younger reading this, well, sorry, but you're out of luck for now. I guess they don't want children participating in science to stop a pandemic? Could also be some side effect issues with the younger crowd, I'm not sure.

Hoping this goes well though. If it does, then maybe we're finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. It's still a ways off, but it's better than nothing!
 

Skarmizard

Metal dragon bird/Smash ‘locker
Writer
Screenshotter
Pokédex No.
1002
Caught
Nov 12, 2019
Messages
1,598
Location
Texas
Nature
Quiet
Pronouns
he/him
Pokémon Type
Dragon, Steel
Pokédex Entry
This Skarmory/Charizard fusion is very rare and tends to be quiet and shy until befriended. Also writes and is a huge fan of Smash Bros.
I found out my sister tested positive the other day. So far she only has mild symptoms, and she's otherwise in very good health, but finding out someone that close to you is positive is a horrible feeling. Especially since she has four children.

At this point I say "bring on the vaccines".
 

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